The hunt for a new practice site

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In January of 2007 we were informed that due solely to the fact that Casa Loma has a new operator (Liberty Group), Eoforwic will no longer be able to enjoy the special relationship we have had with Casa Loma for the past four years.

Our Sunday afternoon armoured combat practice, rapier practice, youth combat practice, and arts and sciences gatherings will end at Casa Loma after January 28, 2007.

Eoforwic now begins the process of hunting for a new location for our activities to continue. Please use this page to help coordinate our efforts.

Contents

Site needs

  • Easy transit access, ideally within 2 km of a Subway stop
  • Parking (10 plus vehicles)
  • Downtown (in the original City of Toronto)
  • Sunday afternoon (approximately 1 or 2 to 5 pm)
  • High ceiling to allow halberds (e.g. 5 m plus)
  • Floor we can kneel on or we are allowed to use a large carpet (which we would be allowed to store on site)
  • Fees under $5 an adult attendee


Sites under initial investigation

  • Armouries - Thorolfr
  • The Distillery District - Helena - Not available per e-mail 29 January
  • Breweries - James
  • University of Toronto
  • Ryerson University
  • Humber College
  • FAC
  • St. Stephens-in-the-field
  • Leaside United Church
  • Don Valley Brickworks
  • St. Simon-the-Apostle Church
  • St.Nicholas Church at Warden and Kennedy
  • Other suggestions?

Sites for which we would have to pay a fee

St. Stephen's-in-the-fields @ College & 103 Bellevue Ave

http://www.saintstephens.ca/page28/page28.html

  • Fee: $100 for two-to-four hours.
  • Pros:
    • They also have a courtyard which we would be able to use in good weather
    • TTC access is excellent. (1.59 km to Queen's Park Subway)
    • Very close to ISC.
    • High ceiling
    • 1,000 sq ft (32 x 32 feet)
  • Cons:
    • The church doesn't have parking, but there's some on-street parking and a green P lot two blocks down the street.
    • Need carpet to protect floor. Carpet can be stored on site
    • Likely need to start mid afternoon

Fighting Arts Collective of Toronto studio on 2nd floor of 927 Dupont Street, Toronto SE corner at Dupont St. and Concord St.

  • Fee: $30 per hour
  • Pros:
    • TTC access is excellent. (1.02 km from Ossington Subway)
    • Lots of light
    • Heated
    • Martial arts facility and very familar with the SCA
    • Can kneel on floor
    • Male and Female Change Rooms with a shower on site
    • Potential for A&S gathering area in the mezzaine
    • Reasonable price
    • Lots of space (3,250 sq.ft or 50 x 65 feet - reported as 15 x 20 m)
  • Cons:
    • Parking may be an issue (since learnt that there should be 8 spaces at the site and additional across the street at Sobeys).
    • Restrictions on foot wear in certain areas such as hard soles or street shoes

TDSB School space

  • Fee: $13.00/hour/person + $45/hour custodial fee
  • Pros:
    • Parking
  • Cons:
    • Expensive

A Private school Jocelyne looked into.

  • Fee: $75/hr for the Gym +$35/hr for custodial fees.
  • Pros:
  • Cons:
    • Very Expensive

Distillery

  • Does not have a space that would be suitable for fight practice.
  • The one (theoretically) available space is a high-end event venue that is prohibitively expensive (the base rate is $4500 a day, with add-ons for things like lights).
  • The two remaining unrenovated tank houses are not accessible because of building code issues.

Breweries

Amsterdam Brewery

  • Pros:
    • Parking
    • Lots of fight space/High ceilings
    • Concrete floors
    • Easy Access to TTC/under 2km walk from Subway
    • Beer nearby
    • Easy equipment drop off/load up
  • Cons:
    • Likely expensive

Steamwhistle Brewery

  • Pros:
    • Lots of fight space/High ceilings
    • Concrete floors
    • Beer nearby
    • Easy equipment drop off/load up
  • Cons:
    • Over 2km from subway/no Direct TTC access
    • Likely expensive
    • Not available as a practice site due to regular tours during the day

Don Valley Brickworks

  • Pros:
    • tons of outdoor fight space
    • Covered outdoor fight space for rainy weather
    • Concrete floors
    • Lots of parking
    • Site is still under development for use - owners are open to negotiation for costs
  • Cons:
    • Indoor space estimated at about 400sq ft/40 people
    • No convenient TTC Access
    • Cost details as a practice site not yet available
    • Probably not suitable as a winter practice site

St. Simon-the-Apostle @ 525 Bloor St. E.

  • Pros:
    • in the same block as Sherbourne subway station
    • large space - approximately 40 x 60 ft. (possibly bigger - that was the low guesstimate)
    • high ceiling
    • parking for 10 cars + nearby parking lot
    • heating & washrooms
    • not turned off by $100 maximum
  • Cons:
    • don't know yet if space will be available - they're negotiating with a congregation who may want the Sunday afternoon slot. They will know by the end of February & will let us know in either case
    • would need carpet to protect floor. Carpet storage space probably available.

St Nicholas Church

  • Pros
    • $100 per month for every Sunday afternoon (occasional cancellation due to Church commitments with ample notice); amount to be confirmed (offer is almost 1 year old as of October 2008)
    • large, open hall with high ceilings and few structural members, very few breakables
    • second, smaller hall available for fencing
    • dance space also available (stage off main hall)
    • cannot fight on knees in main hall, but, at no extra cost, church will store carpet/boards for floor pad if we provide
    • stocked kitchen with appliances between two halls, with pass-through windows to both halls. Kitchen could be used for:
      • wet crafts
      • refreshments
      • pot-luck meals after practice
    • ample parking
    • Wimpy's Diner across the street for after practice
    • if relationship with church is positive, possible small event site at low cost
  • Cons
    • distance from downtown (prime recruiting pool at St George's campus UofT)
    • TTC service from Warden station is slow on weekends, bus ride is long (15 minutes+)


Sites for which we would not have to pay a fee

Public parks

  • Pros:
    • Lots of space
  • Cons:
    • Other people may be using the same space we want to use.
    • Bad weather will force the cancellation of practice.
    • Not suitable as a winter season site.

Other groups practice spaces

  • Pros:
    • Get to socialize with other groups
  • Cons:
    • May wear out our welcome
    • May need to pay fee after all
    • Not downtown
    • Likely not at our historical practice time
    • May not have space for all of our group
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